2006-08-18

Barbara Kay: made up facts

In a sense, I admire Barbara Kay. She subscribes to the thinking, "When in doubt, make it up". I use this with family and friends in the heat of an argument. Bill O'Reiley does it on his show, improvising facts as he goes along.

But Barbara Kay has plenty of time to research her National Post columns. And there are plenty of facts out there to be used, distorted and repackaged to make a point. But Kay simply makes stuff up.

On August 9th she wrote "all Jews are federalists", on August 17th: "Gleeful separatist cineaste Pierre Falardeau was photographed brandishing a fleur-de-lys in one hand, a Hezbollah flag in the other."

No, that would be Julien Poulin, an actor. Falardeau wasn't holding any flags.

This is what Victor Goldblume, President of the Executive Committee, Canadian Jewish Congress, had to say about Kay's columns on SRC's August 17 Téléjournal.

"Ses propos me désole, il m'est difficile de comprendre sur quoi une personne peut se baser pour faire de telles affirmations".

'Her comments are disturbing, it's difficult for me to understand on what a person can base those statements." (translation by me).

Made up facts is the answer.

Just think of the National Post as a print version of Fox News or the Colbert Report.

INDEX of my site.

Here is Barbara Kay's column that appeared in the National Post, André Pratte's response, and Kay's reaction to the response.

Kay's column were taken from proudtobecanadian.ca as allowed under the fair dealing exception to the Copyright Act.




Written by Barbara KayBio Barbara
Kay Archives
Wednesday, August 16, 2006

EDITOR?S NOTE: Barbara Kay
has also written a followup
to this editorial
.
MONTREAL - In his Montreal Gazette column yesterday,
Don MacPherson projected a worrying Quebec trend with startling candour: ?It?s
finally becoming respectable again to express support for terrorists.?

So it has. On Sunday, 15,000 Quebecers, mostly
Lebanese-Canadians, marched for ?justice and peace? in Lebanon. That sounds
benign, but in fact the march was a virulently anti-Israel rally, and scattered
amongst the crowd were a number of Hezbollah flags and placards. Leading the
parade were Bloc Quebecois chief Gilles Duceppe, Liberal MP Denis Coderre, PQ
chief Andre Boisclair, and Amir Khadir, spokesman for the new far-left
provincial party, Solidarite Quebec.
All four politicians had signed a
statement by the organizers the day before the march, in which Israel is
lambasted for its depredations in Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank?but the word
?terrorism? is never mentioned, nor Hezbollah assigned any blame for the war.

In their speeches at the conclusion of the march, Messrs. Coderre and
Duceppe did not condemn terrorism, did not mention Israel?s right to defend
itself, and spoke only of Lebanese civilian suffering. As a sop to the
Quebec-Israel Committee, which had taken out full-page ads calling on the
march?s leaders to condemn terrorism, however, they called for the disarming of
Hezbollah as part of a negotiated ceasefire.

For this, they were roundly booed by the crowd.

These politicians are playing a dangerous game. They have no political
support from Jews (who are all federalists), so have nothing to lose in courting
anti-Israel Arab groups. There are at least 50,000 Lebanese-Canadians in the
Montreal area. We can expect those numbers to swell as Hezbollah-supporting
residents of southern Lebanon cash in on their Canadian citizenship and flee to
the safety of Quebec. Under the circumstances, it may be politically convenient
for some left-wing Quebec politicians to stoke fires of enthusiasm for
Hezbollah?an organization officially classified as a terrorist group by the
Canadian government. Yet it would be disastrous for the future of the province.

But after the thumping they took from the Conservatives in the last
federal election, Quebec separatists are desperate for votes, and apparently not
too morally fussy about how they get them. Their official endorsement of last
week?s one-sided document and their prominent presence at the march was a
calculated appeal to dangerous elements in Quebec society. As MacPherson also
pointed out in his column, ?if [their support for the statement and the march]
did not invite Hezbollah sympathizers to participate, it also contained nothing
to discourage them from doing so.?

Left-wing Quebec intellectuals and politicians (Pierre Trudeau being an
obvious example) have always enjoyed flirtations with causes that wrap
themselves in the mantle of ?liberation? from colonialist oppressors?including
their very own home-grown Front de Liberation du Quebec (FLQ), which gave them a
frisson of pleasure as it sowed terror throughout Canada in the late ?60s with
mailbox bombs, kidnappings and a murder. Their cultural and historical sympathy
for Arab countries from the francophonie?Morocco, Algeria, Lebanon?joined with
reflexive anti-Americanism and a fat streak of anti-Semitism that has marbled
the intellectual discourse of Quebec throughout its history, has made Quebec the
most anti-Israel of the provinces, and therefore the most vulnerable to
tolerance for Islamist terrorist sympathizers.

Think about what this would mean if Quebec ever were to become
independent, and detached from the leadership of politicians who know the
difference between a democracy and a gang of fanatical exterminationists. You
can bet that Hezbollah would be off the official terrorism list by Day two of
the Republic of Quebec?s existence. By Day three, word would go out to the
Islamosphere that Quebec was the new ?Londonistan,? to cite the title of a
riveting new book by British journalist Melanie Phillips, chronicling the rise
of militant Islam in her country.

Complacent Canadians think it can?t happen here. It won?t if our
political class takes its cue from the principled Stephen Harper rather than the
shameless Quebec politicians who led that pro-terrorist rally. Harper needs
Quebec votes every bit as much as Messrs. Duceppe and Boisclair if he expects to
achieve a majority government in the next federal election, but unlike them, he
isn?t willing to sell his soul.

The devil is always on the lookout for the moral relativism that
signals a latter-day Faust, and it seems he has found some eager recruits
amongst Quebec?s most prominent spokespeople.
EDITOR?S NOTE: Barbara Kay has
also written a followup
to this editorial
.
©2005-06 - Barbara Kay is a columnist at Canada?s
National Post newspaper. Her column appears here at ProudToBeCanadian.ca
weekly, with Barbara Kay?s express permission.
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Andé Pratte's response, as published in the National Post. Pratte is the Editorialist of La Presse, Montreal's French language federalist newspaper. Posted here as allowed under the fair dealing exception to the Copyright Act.

The myth of 'Quebecistan'
Counterpoint
Andre Pratte, National Post
Published: Wednesday, August 16, 2006
According to Barbara Kay's Aug. 9 article, "The Rise of Quebecistan," Quebec is a haven for Hezbollah supporters and for anti-Semitic and anti-American ideologues. An independent Quebec, she predicts, would rapidly become a new "Londonistan."
As a Quebec federalist -- and a journalist who has repeatedly supported Israel's right to defend itself, and denounced Quebec politicians' criticism of Stephen Harper's handling of the Lebanese crisis -- I was dumbfounded by Ms. Kay's prejudice.
Were Gilles Duceppe, Andre Boisclair and others ill-advised to sign a manifesto that did not condemn the Hezbollah raids against Israel? Yes, undeniably. Does that make them supporters of terrorism? No: Their statements and deeds, including the comments they made during the Montreal demonstration Ms. Kay describes, make it clear that they do not endorse terrorism in any form. Their position in favour of an "immediate ceasefire" was perfectly respectable. It closely resembled the point of view defended by many federal Liberals, and promoted by a large number of countries, including the European Union, which all suggested that Israel's response to the kidnapping of two of its soldiers was disproportionate.
Ms. Kay strongly disagrees with the focus of the demonstration on Israel's supposed wrongs; so do I. But from that well-founded criticism, she goes on to portray Quebec society, particularly its intellectual and political leadership, as sympathetic to Islamist terrorists in general. She also denounces Quebecers' "reflexive anti-Americanism" and their "fat streak of anti-Semitism." That Quebec, the "Quebecistan" of her thesis, simply does not exist.
A huge majority of Quebecers are strongly against George W. Bush's policies, that's for sure. Does that make them "anti-American"? If they are, why has Quebec been more supportive of free trade than Ontario? How can one explain the very close relationships Quebec maintains with the north-eastern states and the fact that Quebecers travel in huge numbers to the United States? How about the popularity of American music and movies in Quebec?
Besides, is there no anti-Americanism in the rest of Canada? Has Ms. Kay listened to the speeches of some Liberal and NDP politicians? As far as I recall, it was not a Quebec MP who famously called Americans "bastards."
Was anti-Semitism rampant in Quebec intellectual circles in the 1930s and 1940s? Yes. Are there still remnants of that disgusting sentiment today? Yes. But is this history of anti-Semitism unique to Quebec? Obviously not.
In the English Canada of the 1940s, recalled historian Irving Abella, "banks, insurance companies, industrial and commercial interests of importance did not hire Jews. Stores did not want Jews as salespersons. Hospitals did not admit Jewish doctors. There were no Jewish judges and Jewish lawyers were barred from most firms."
Moreover, if Quebec is a nest of anti-Semitism, why do more than a third of Canadian Jews still live and prosper here?
According to the Post columnist, if Quebec ever becomes a sovereign state, it will immediately fall under the control of terrorist-supporting leaders and transform itself into a sort of Afghanistan of the North. The only thing that prevents this from happening today, she believes, is the benevolent governance of "politicians who know the difference between democracy and a gang of fanatical exterminationists."
What politicians is she talking about? Are English Canadian politicians the only democrats? How about LaFontaine, Laurier, Saint-Laurent, Trudeau? At the provincial level think of Lesage, Levesque, Bourassa, all strong believers in the virtues of democracy. Can Ms. Kay name a place in the world where two referendums were held on the issue of independence, including one where the result was extremely close, and where the separatist side accepted defeat without taking to the streets? And those are the cryptoterrorists she is alluding to?
While pretending to fight intolerance, those who paint a prejudiced view of Quebec are in fact fanning its flames. They try to hurt separatism by associating it with the devil; in reality, they are buttressing the sovereignists' case against Canada.
Today's Quebec is a vibrant, diverse, tolerant and deeply democratic society. On the Lebanese issue, as on many others, there a difference of opinion between Quebec and other regions of the country. Being partners in the great Canadian experience, we should not caricature or squash those differences, but try to understand and build from them.
- Andre Pratte is Editorial Pages Editor at La Presse. His latest book, Aux Pays des Merveilles (VLB editeur, 2006), is an essay on Quebec political myths.

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From proudtobecanadian.ca (oringinally in National Post), posted here under the fair dealing exception to the Copyright Act:

Written by Barbara KayBio Barbara
Kay Archives
Thursday, August 17, 2006

My National Post Aug. 9 column [August 16
here at PTBC due to holidays], ?The
Rise of Quebecistan
,? has become a focus for great controversy in Quebec. In
the past week, I have been interviewed by numerous radio stations, both French
and English, and declared an enemy of the people, in so many words, in no less
than three newspapers, including in a Post column yesterday by Andre Pratte, a
federalist Quebecois journalist I respect and admire.
Pratte?s column
misrepresented me in certain respects, and I felt I had to respond. Pratte said
that I had expressed the fear that if Quebec became a sovereign state, it would
?immediately fall under the control of terrorist-supporting leaders.? What I
actually predicted was that in an independent Quebec, under pressure from its
Shiite Lebanese immigrant population, Hezbollah would be removed from the
official terrorist list, and that supporters of terrorism would find Quebec a
place offering little resistance to burgeoning Islamism amongst its Muslim
immigrants.
The reason I believe this is because of the behaviour exhibited
before and during an anti-Israel rally two weeks ago in Montreal by the four
politicians I reproached in my column: Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe,
Parti Quebecois leader Andre Boisclair, Liberal MP Denis Coderre, and Quebec
Solidaire leader Amir Khadir. The organizing committee for the ?peace? rally
deliberately excluded a Jewish presence. That was in itself an anti-Semitic act
and a warning to any politician, whose business it is to remain neutral in
affairs of this kind, to stay away.
All four, along with prominent Quebec
union leaders, signed a manifesto that did not condemn Hezbollah?s aggression,
then endorsed and willingly undertook a dominant role in a march at which
Hezbollah flags were in evidence, along with placards, reading ?Juifs assassins?
(not ?Israelis??Jews), ?Nous sommes tous Hezbollah,? ?Longue vie a Nasrallah,?
?Vive le Hezbollah.?
Gleeful separatist cineaste Pierre Falardeau was
photographed brandishing a fleur-de-lys in one hand, a Hezbollah flag in the
other. Graffiti on a building read: ?God f--- the Jews.? A Jewish prayer shawl
was torn to pieces.
Recall that Hezbollah is officially classified as a
terrorist organization by this country?s government. If these signs had read:
?We are all KKK,? ?Long life to Osama Bin Laden,? ?We are all Nazis,? ?Women are
pigs,? would these same leaders have turned the blind eye they did at the time?
Hezbollah?s mission is to eradicate Jews?not just Israelis?from the earth.
It is true that similar marches have taken place in other cities. The
difference is that politicians in Toronto and elsewhere in Canada do not march
at the head of these hatefests.
The complicity of politicians, not with
terrorism itself, but with those who support terrorism, indicates a penchant for
appeasement of hateful attitudes. When hatemongers see non-judgmentalism in the
governing elites, they batten on it. That is what happened in England and Europe
and what could happen here if we are not vigilant. Pratte and other commentators
have agreed that the politicians should not have attended the rally, but
shrugged it off as a misdemeanour. I call it egregious misconduct that should
result in official apologies to all right-thinking Quebecers and some deep
soul-searching about their professional credibility.
Diplomats are usually
chary about official interventions, but the Israeli ambassador considers the
matter serious enough to have written a strong formal letter of concern to
Gilles Duceppe. The Jewish community in Montreal is devastated by these
politicians? spectacular lack of judgment and sensitivity.
So I say to the
French media: This story is not about me. The West is in a war against global
Islamofacism. It already has made its nest in our cities. We must combat the
hatred that nourishes it in every way possible. Quebec politicians and union
leaders have, by their silence and weakness and acts of overt complicity,
legitimated rather than defused anti-Jewish sentiment in Quebec. For this
reason, I stand behind my previous statement that Quebec in the hands of these
people might very well become a Quebecistan.
©2005-06 - Barbara Kay is a
columnist at Canada?s National Post newspaper. Her column appears here at
ProudToBeCanadian.ca weekly, with Barbara Kay?s express permission.

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Here are some of the English language blogs posting about Babara Kay's columns. The French language reaction (see below) is much more negative. French reaction included front page articles in major newspapers and items in the first few minutes of Radio-Canada's Téléjournal.

Presently an unfinished work... Barbara Kay, National Post ...17 Aug 2006 by Quebecistan
Barbara Kay, National Post Published: Wednesday, August 09, 2006. MONTREAL - In his Montreal Gazette column yesterday, Don MacPherson projected a worrying Quebec trend with startling candour: "It's finally becoming respectable again to ...

Quebecistan? by Adam Daifallah
Barbara Kay's controversial National Post op-ed of last week about Quebec and support for ... But anti-semitism has historically been a serious problem in francophone society, and Barbara Kay has touched a nerve by raising this topic. ...

Quebecistan? I wish... by kersplebedeb
Last week?s article by Barbara Kay in the right-wing National Post should be clipped and put aside (or saved to hard drive) as a reference for future discussions about Quebec nationhood, racism and the province plays in the English ...

Societé Saint-Jean-Baptiste Right for Once14 Aug 2006 by Sinestra
There are fanatics on all sides, yet Kay lets the fanatics steal the message of the march. And there's a sick undercurrent that all Muslims support terrorists. Even for the National Rag, this is beyond the pale. Barbara Kay insulted all ...

The National Post: Greasing racism's wheels12 Aug 2006 by DJN
On page A14 I read what is the most shocking article I've ever seen in the National Post, which, of course, is saying something. The article in question, by Barbara Kay, bears the title The Rise of Quebecistan. ...

The rise of Quebecistan by EdS
Barbara Kay, who writes opinion articles for the National Post is as gifted in ... This week, Barbara Kay wrote a piece and a response on Quebec's penchant for ... Barbara Kay is really smart and more than capable of defending herself. ...

Harper's support for neo-conservatism17 Aug 2006 by Anh Khoi Do
Finally, in her column?s conclusion, Barbara Kay audaciously states that ... Barbara Kay doesn't seem to see that the Israeli and American governments are advocating political stances that don't bring peace at all in the Middle East. ...

Protestors burn flags in Toronto - The rise of Ontarikistan13 Aug 2006 by Marco
At least in Quebec, we had the decency not to burn flags while marching for peace, n'est-ce pas Barbara Kay ? This is a very regrettable incident, not only for our fellow Jews, but for all Canadians. We march for peace and even if we do ...

Of press liberty / De la liberté de presse12 Aug 2006 by Daniel Dufort
The fact that this opinion piece by Barbara Kay caused such a strong reaction goes a long way into proving that some Québécois are unable of true self-analyzation. In order to avoid this kind of hard, often excruciating reflection, ...

Complaint filed against National Post11 Aug 2006 by Radical Centrist
Gilles Rhéaume, a member of the Société Saint-Jean-Baptiste?s executive committee has filed a complaint with the Conseil de presse du Québec against the National Post over an article by Barbara Kay entitled The Rise of Quebecistan ...

Quebecistan10 Aug 2006 by Pieface
National Post columnist Barbara Kay reported:. "In their speeches at the conclusion of the march, Messrs. Coderre and Duceppe did not condemn terrorism, did not mention Israel's right to defend itself, and spoke only of Lebanese ...

Hezbollah propaganda theatrics unmasked but ongoing.9 Aug 2006 by D.C. - References
Barbara Kay, National Post August 09, 2006 Report on Global Anti-Semitism Released by the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor, USA January 5, 2005 AntiSemitism, a Continuing Threat A DANGEROUS LIE PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ...

The Rise of Quebecistan9 Aug 2006 by EclectEcon - References
From Barbara Kay in the National Post: In his Montreal Gazette column yesterday, Don MacPherson projected a worrying Quebec trend with startling candour: It's finally becoming respectable again to express support for terrorists. ...

EN FRANÇAIS
La chroniqueuse Barbara Kay répète ses allusions au QuebecistanCyberpresse - 17 août 2006... chroniqueurs québécois et de celle du premier ministre Jean Charest qui a qualifié son propos de grossièreté, la commentatrice Barbara Kay répète, ce ...

Gilles Rhéaume portera plainte contre la chroniqueuse du National ...Cyberpresse - Il y a 19 heures... dans ses récents articles, Gilles Rhéaume, militant indépendantiste bien connu, a décidé de porter plainte auprès de la police contre Barbara Kay et le ...

Propos sous influenceLe Devoir (Abonnement) - 17 août 2006Depuis une semaine, une chronique de Barbara Kay publiée dans le National Post fait couler beaucoup d'encre au Québec. Intitulé ...

La chroniqueuse Barbara Kay répète ses allusions au QuebecistanMatinternet - 17 août 2006... chroniqueurs québécois et de celle du premier ministre Jean Charest qui a qualifié son propos de grossièreté, la commentatrice Barbara Kay répète, ce ...

Manifestation pour la paix au Liban - Charest refuse de blâmer ...Le Devoir (Abonnement) - 17 août 2006... Le lendemain, le National Post publiait un texte polémique de la chroniqueuse montréalaise Barbara Kay intitulé «The rise of Quebecistan» dans lequel elle ...

Gilles Réhaume dépose une plainte criminelleInfo 690 - 17 août 2006... Le militant indépendantiste bien connu Gilles Rhéaume a décidé de déposer une plainte criminelle contre le National Post et sa journaliste Barbara Kay. ...

Plainte contre le National PostRadio-Canada - 11 août 2006Une chronique récente de Barbara Kay à propos d'une manifestation québécoise contre la guerre au Liban continue de soulever l'ire de bien des Québécois ...

Le National Post fait l'objet d'une plainte déposée au Conseil ...Matinternet - 11 août 2006... Dans son texte The Rise of Quebecistan, Barbara Kay affirme qu'André Boisclair et Gilles Duceppe sont des politiciens sans foi ni loi qui ont dirigé une ...

Manifestation HezbollahCanoë - 17 août 2006... Barbara Kay a décrié le «Québecistan». «C'est une grossièreté que de dire une chose comme celle-là», a répliqué le premier ministre Charest, hier. ...

Du délireCyberpresse - 15 août 2006Cet écart de perception a fourni à la journaliste du National Post Barbara Kay, l'occasion de tartiner son fiel sur le dos des Québécois. ...

Le dernier-né des délires de la droite canadienneLe Devoir (Abonnement) - 15 août 2006... Cet écart de perception a fourni à la journaliste du National Post Barbara Kay l'occasion de tartiner son fiel sur le dos des Québécois. ...

La journaliste du National Post a accusé les souverainistes de ...Canoë - 16 août 2006Une chronique signée Barbara Kay dans le National Post du 9 août a littéralement fait sortir le rappeur Biz de ses gonds. La ...

La SSJB porte plainte au Conseil de presse contre un article du ...Matinternet - 11 août 2006... plainte vendredi auprès du Conseil de presse du Québec contre un article paru mercredi dans le National Post sous la signature de la journaliste Barbara Kay. ...

Drapeau du Hezbollah: Falardeau s'expliqueCyberpresse - 13 août 2006... Interrogé sur la chronique publiée par le National Post la semaine dernière, dans laquelle la journaliste Barbara Kay affirme que des leaders souverainistes ...

Le droit de dire NonMessager Lachine/Dorval - 11 août 2006... Barbara Kay, du National Post, est allée beaucoup trop loin en affirmant que les deux leaders souverainistes sont des politiciens « sans foi ni loi qui ont ...

De www.vigile.net (je recommande l'original):

"Les guignols de l?unitarisme canadien"L'antiquébécisme ordinaire «L'idée de
base est de convaincre la minorité qu'elle est inapte à s'autogouverner. On
commence par insinuer qu'elle n'en a pas la compétence économique. Si cela ne
fonctionne pas, on l'accuse de quelque chose de beaucoup plus grave:
l'incompétence morale.» - Ray Conlogue

Quebecers in denial :
Counterpoint
Barbara Kay - The National Post jeudi 17 août 2006 - So I say to
the French media: This story is not about me. The West is in a war against
global Islamofacism. It already has made its nest in our cities. We must combat
the hatred that nourishes it in every way possible. Quebec politicians and union
leaders have, by their silence and weakness and acts of overt complicity,
legitimated rather than defused anti-Jewish sentiment in Quebec. For this
reason, I stand behind my previous statement that Quebec in the hands of these
people might very well become a Quebecistan. (ns) The rise of
Quebecistan
Barbara Kay - The National Post mercredi 9 août 2006 Quebecistan is no
myth
Lettres - The National Post jeudi 17 août 2006 Le Québecistan vous
répond
Yves Boisvert - La Presse mercredi 16 août 2006 De Barbara à
Lysiane
Michel Vastel - Blogue - revue L?Actualité mercredi 16 août 2006 Le dernier-né des délires de
la droite canadienne
Biz, du groupe Loco Locass - Le Devoir 15 août 2006 Du
délire
Biz, La Presse mardi 15 août 2006 - même texte. Kaybecistan... - Le plaisir
d?inventer fait l?événement
André Savard 15 août 2006 - Barbara Kay dans le
National Post ou McPherson dans le journal The Gazette sont tout à fait d?accord
pour être les guignols de l?unitarisme canadien.
Not anti-Semitic /
Francophones unjustly labelled intolerant
Josée Legault - The Montreal
Gazette vendredi 18 août 2006 - Fallout continues over massive peace march -
What matters in Kay?s column is its content, the underlying vision it reflects
as well as where that vision comes from, ideologically and intellectually, or
what could have comforted a prejudice that was already there. Gilles Rhéaume portera
plainte contre la chroniqueuse du National Post
Christiane Desjardins - La
Presse vendredi 18 août 2006 L?incontinenceVincent
Marissal - La Presse vendredi 18 août 2006 - Les collègues réunis hier matin au
centre de la salle de rédaction secouaient la tête de dépit en lisant le
National Post. La bonne
cible
François Deschamps - Tribune libre de Vigile 18 août 2006 - Il ne
convient pas d?accorder plus d?importance qu?il ne faut aux fantasmes
prospectifs de madame Kay. Chez nous, l?épouvantail à moineaux anti-québécois ne
fait plus peur à grand monde. Propos sous
influence
Jean-Robert Sansfaçon - Le Devoir jeudi 17 août 2006 - Et ce n?est
pas en se défoulant sur cet autre nationalisme qu?est celui du Québec
francophone que nos concitoyens juifs anglophones, « qui sont tous fédéralistes
» (dixit Mme Kay), contribueront le mieux à l?harmonie des rapports
interculturels ici même au Québec. Le véritable héritage de
Trudeau ?
Mathieu Bélanger - Lettres au Devoir jeudi 17 août 2006 - Peut-être
est-il également temps que certains groupes fédéralistes fassent le ménage chez
eux afin de démettre des leaders qui propagent ? il faut dire les choses comme
elles sont ? la haine envers les souverainistes et donc, par extension, aux
Québécois ou à tout le moins à la moitié d?entre eux.
Pratte et le Quebecistan
Le désormais fameux
?Quebecistan? et notre cher ami Pratte
Sylvain Maréchal - Tribune libre de
Vigile vendredi 18 août 2006 - Tous, sur cette question (et sur bien d?autres),
font bien comprendre que la différence québécoise ne passe pas, qu?elle ne doit
pas passer. Car il ne s?agit pas ici de critiques ordinaires. Il serait absurde
de se prétendre à l?abri ou au-delà de toute critique. La critique fait ici
place au mépris et au refus. A l?idée d?un Québec antisémite, infantile,
inconscient, incapable, dangereux. Un Québec qu?on doit encadrer, surveiller.
The myth of
?Quebecistan?
André Pratte - The National Post mercredi 16 août 2006 Kay contre BizAndré
Pratte - La Presse jeudi 17 août 2006 - La mésentente entre les peuples est
souvent fondée sur des préjugés. Ceux-ci naissent de l?ignorance et de
généralisations abusives, parfois de la mauvaise foi et de la démagogie. On voit
ces processus à l?oeuvre, ces jours-ci, dans la petite controverse suscitée par
un texte de la chroniqueure Barbara Kay, du National Post.


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La joie des Québecois, La Day pis La Francis ! ... Gilmo: *Y'a keuk zannées j'avais adressé une p'tite lettre que j'avais envoyée àla Barbara-Kay-du-jour qu'était Diane Francis qui, à même son éditorial ... qc.politique - 13 août 07:19 by chval@lier - 9 messages - 5 auteurs

Palestine : *La StreetWalker est l'équivalent de Barbara Kay (deux de la même espèce!) * MaraJade Skywalker a écrit : De sa plus belle plume, Nikopol nous a écrit: 1 ... qc.politique - 12 août 16:53 by Gilmo - 83 messages - 20 auteurs

Le Québecistan.... ... Barbara Kay est vraiment mal renseignée pour écrire des choses commeçà...c'est pour çà qu'au Canada ont parle des deux solitudes... ... Francoseniors_amities - 12 août 14:26 by rackier - 15 messages - 7 auteurs

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La folle de Barbara Kay et les terroristes québécois !14 hours ago by Olivier
Je publie ici le texte de Barbara Kay publié dans le National Post et la réponse d'André Pratte à ce dernier. Les textes sont en anglais et malgré le fait que ... Barbara Kay, National Post. Published: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 ...
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Attachez votre turban avec de la broche, après Adolf Bouchard ...14 hours ago by Hélie
Cet écart de perception a fourni à la journaliste du National Post Barbara Kay l'occasion de tartiner son fiel sur le dos des Québécois. Dans un article intitulé "The Rise of Quebecistan", elle reproche aux chefs souverainistes du Bloc ...
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Quebecistan15 hours ago by Rousse en délire
Avec un peu de retard, j'ai lu la chronique intitulée "The rise of Quebecistan" publié mercredi le 9 août dans le National Post par Barbara Kay: http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=10524e16-36f2-4975-910d-9407471f2261 ...
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J'ai envie de chialer16 hours ago by rainy_melancoly
'La chroniqueuse ( Barbara Kay) a soulevé l'ire de bien des gens au Québec dans une chronique parue de 9 aout dernier sous le titre The Rise of Quebecistan ( La montée du Québecistan). Elle y allait de propos très critiques à la suite ...
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Quebecistan, vraiment?17 Aug 2006 by Vincent Robidas
Barbara Kay, illustre inconnue au Québec avant la publication de sa chronique The Rise of Quebecistan, le 9août dernier, persiste et signe, aujourd'hui dans les pages du quotidien ontarien. Dans sa chronique du 9 août, elle tentait de ...
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Infect14 Aug 2006 by Genevieve
Barbara Kay. Disponible en ligne. MONTREAL - In his Montreal Gazette column yesterday, Don MacPherson projected a worrying Quebec trend with startling candour: ?It?s finally becoming respectable again to express support for terrorists. ...
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Lettre à Franco Nuovo10 Aug 2006 by Martin
Montréal accuse Québec et les régions, et encore trop d?intellectuels du Canada anglais, comme Barbara Kay du Post, accusent l?ensemble du Québec à la première occasion. Dès que la crise a de nouveau éclaté entre Israël et le Liban, ...
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Bienvenue au Québecistan10 Aug 2006 by Thierry Bélanger Clermont - References
Barbara Kay a écrit un torchon dans l?édition d?hier du National Post. These politicians are playing a dangerous game. They have no political support from Jews (who are all federalists), so have nothing to lose in courting anti-Israel ...
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Le Québec propice au terrorisme10 Aug 2006 by oniquet
Richard Martineau pointe vers cet incroyable éditorial de Barbara Kay du National Post, qui prétend que si le Québec se séparait du Canada, il deviendrait un lieu de prédilection pour les terroristes internationaux. ...
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Bienvenue au « Québekistan »9 Aug 2006
... à une soi-disant manif contre la guerre où flotaient des drapeaux du Hezbollah, un groupe shiite radical du Liban. Le National Post parle du Quebecistan, mais la version avec un « k » : Québekistan. Lisez l'article de Barbara Kay.
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3 comments:

Anh Khoi Do said...

Wow, I never knew that I was mentionned in another Canadian blog until I made a little search on Google. Furthermore, I didn't even know that you're one of the few people who "admire Barbara Kay". To be very honest with you, I'm a federalist and I'm shocked to see that a fellow federalist backs Barbara Kay up, because she can't write a constructive critique on the Quebecker society.

First of all, she doesn't speak French a lot, hence her incapacity to analyze appropriately the French language political articles published in Quebec. Furthermore, she lives (and always stay) in Westmount, an English-speaking urban area in Montreal that is often described as an Anglo-Saxon ghetto. That explains why she doesn't know Quebec from inside and outside. What Barbara Kay has written in her column is a distortion of reality and let me remind you that as a journalist, you don't make up facts by making a generalization full of prejudices.

Altavistagoogle said...

Thanks for your comment. Not sure why you branded me a federalist (I live in NB, but sometimes I think Quebeckers should seperate). And I only admire Kay for her ability to make stuff up to make a point. (I thought the irony was clear, guess not).

Barbara Kay clearly lacks practice in spoken French, but she can certainly read it. Being an Anglo-Quebecker is no excuse for publishing made up facts in the National Post.

She has a pretty good web site: www.barbarakay.ca

Hélie said...

Je ne pensais pas, moi non plus, pouvoir être mentionnée dans un autre blogue...

Recherche rapide sur google...

Excellents commentaires, toutes allégeances politiques confondues.

Je soutiens tout de même que Mme Kay ne peut comprendre la problématique culturelle (linguistique, religieuse et autre) s'appliquant lorsqu'il est question du Québec et du Canada.

Mme Kay n'auraît dû, en aucun cas, lancer de telles affirmations (flèches ???!!!) envers le Québec.

Et le soit disant "grand quotidien"... pas de sanction ? Elle s'en tire bien... Si bien, que son exemple a été suivi par Mme Wong !

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